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solution: don't say names on autopilot

How do i do that?

6:32 PM

is there an autopilot disable button for names?

whatever you do, if you get another girlfriend don’t tell her your current girlfriend’s name… but i guess she will hear it from you at some point anyway

TiCtAc(✧×✧)

whatever you do, if you get another girlfriend don’t tell her your current girlfriend’s name… but i guess she will hear it from you at some point anyway

Dont mistake them you mean? Yeah, that would be problematic

(edited)

6:39 PM

Hasnt happened so far so i feel safe lol

6:41 PM

I dont actually think they would care much tbh though

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i did find unexpected success playing tic tac toe against her, it's really easy to distinguish my thought process and her input. But i (sort of ) do not know her thought process well

I never thought about tic-tac-toe being something that would make it easy to tell who's who. A tulpa developing isn't going to have everything figured out yet. They may need a chance to experiment. "Maybe I have a female body, what is that like?" "What if I liked the color red?" As for their thoughts, you will be an to hear them. At the moment they're likely impulsive, like "hello" and "oh that looks good"

A long kiss goodnight

I never thought about tic-tac-toe being something that would make it easy to tell who's who. A tulpa developing isn't going to have everything figured out yet. They may need a chance to experiment. "Maybe I have a female body, what is that like?" "What if I liked the color red?" As for their thoughts, you will be an to hear them. At the moment they're likely impulsive, like "hello" and "oh that looks good"

Well, its a simple game with not much thought behind... Really interesting that they can do that though.

A long kiss goodnight

I never thought about tic-tac-toe being something that would make it easy to tell who's who. A tulpa developing isn't going to have everything figured out yet. They may need a chance to experiment. "Maybe I have a female body, what is that like?" "What if I liked the color red?" As for their thoughts, you will be an to hear them. At the moment they're likely impulsive, like "hello" and "oh that looks good"

I don't know if I am doing it wrong. I find is useful to distinguish which thoughts are mine and which are my tulpa's because i know for a certain it is my input when it's my turn or if im thinking where to place my piece. I can't really see my tulpa's though process like how I see my own.

A long kiss goodnight

I never thought about tic-tac-toe being something that would make it easy to tell who's who. A tulpa developing isn't going to have everything figured out yet. They may need a chance to experiment. "Maybe I have a female body, what is that like?" "What if I liked the color red?" As for their thoughts, you will be an to hear them. At the moment they're likely impulsive, like "hello" and "oh that looks good"

I used to do OCs and drawings, I sort of just adopted my tulpa and its preference/personality and looks from one. It is a rushy, quick start

10:45 AM

the looks and personality could be too forced

as long as you give them some freedom to deviate from that and don't actively force them to just be that it can be good, it gives them somewhere to start

10:50 AM

at least in my experience

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I used to do OCs and drawings, I sort of just adopted my tulpa and its preference/personality and looks from one. It is a rushy, quick start

You inspired me with this new advice approach, but I think this will help quite a bit- It may be helpful to ask, "Does their response make sense?" You pretty much nailed it playing tic-tac-toe, your tulpa will give you a response in context of the game. However, this can be expanded to other things too. For instance, if you ask your tulpa how they feel about something, does their response make sense? If they don't have much of an opinion, their response may be very neutral. It's also possible for a tulpa to agree with your opinion too. I think the older exploration advice applies here too- keep in mind a young tulpa may not have tons of opinions yet. Questions like, "What's your favorite color?" may be ineffective because your tulpa hasn't formed an opinion for colors yet. Instead, it may help to show them different examples of something like different colors and see how they react

Actually, when Elise was young, I asked her what her favorite color was and she immediately answered "Chartreuse".

1:51 PM

I didn't even know that was a color

Goldheart

Actually, when Elise was young, I asked her what her favorite color was and she immediately answered "Chartreuse".

Soothing vomit green/yellow but actually pretty

2:32 PM

That’s a new one

Has anyone else learned something new from their tulpa?

Never outright new information since that's impossible but with our different perspectives we've learned a lot about philosophical things

better ways to look at certain things

But nothing new like Goldheart learning a new color?

not really

kelly marks her presence by smiling apparently

8:58 PM

and its in some way a form of communication

Has anyone else learned something new from their tulpa?

@FlareonOFun - jump tulpamancy is a great opportunity for personal growth and self discovery

9:21 PM

there is a lot you can learn from the process, not necessarily from the tulpa

mhm

also you might learn through your tulpa things that you have been repressing

how would that work?

how do you mean?

im having a hard time wrapping my head around that idea

Tulpas see the world in a different perspective from their host and may notice things that the host doesn't

repression comes from strong emotions, your tulpa might not feel it therefore they don't repress it

i see, thanks

FlareonOFun

Has anyone else learned something new from their tulpa?

I remember Adriel sharing tulpa advice that was different from ours. He was more focused on delivering simple advice and he came up with ideas we haven't thought of. It's pretty typical for one of our other headmates to surprise us if they think about a topic we usually talk about for long enough

FlareonOFun

Has anyone else learned something new from their tulpa?

A new way to view the world

10:03 PM

Not saying I'm an optimist now, but I'm way less pessimist thanks to her.

Lucilyn: same for our host (edited)

10:06 PM

except close to actual optimist

10:06 PM

lol

a new angle of looking at what I am?

10:08 PM

Still working on solving the mystery of Lun being able to actually do stuff without motivation being an issue Have made pretty much no effort or progress though, for the same reasons.

Lucilyn: mindset and different thought patterns (edited)

10:11 PM

it's stuff that anyone can eventually accomplish for themselves too

10:11 PM

but having your tulpa be a role model is super helpful!

Marrow frequently tells me things I need to hear but don’t want to. Things I don’t want to hear/admit to myself. If that counts at all

I can't even count the times Mallory has stopped me from doing something stupid hehehe

she says she doesn’t know how she’s able to do things so easily when the rest of us still struggle But she believes she can do it because of the circumstances that she first appeared in

And the associations made by your mind

if only it were easy to do that.

Ok so, I am going to need some guidance. My first tulpa wanted to come back and I let her. Now I have 2 tulpas. Both of which are at the "parroting but can speak for themselves stage" of their development. Our biggest concern is dividing attention amongst one another as none of us were prepared for a group of 3 (not counting servitors). I talked to them and they said to ask y'all because they are a stuck as I am

2:57 AM

I will be in voice chat to explain further if needed

Lucilyn: aside from any group activities you can do, it simply is the case that having more tulpas = dividing the total attention you can give them (edited)

2:58 AM

that's the main reason people recommend against creating more tulpas

2:58 AM

we're a system of 5 (including host) and there are plenty of other systems of 4+, so it's not the end of the world

2:59 AM

but total attention (or fronting time if you practice possession or switching) is divided yes

Yeah. These circumstances are unforseen

Lucilyn: you gotta work it out between yourselves how the time is spent (edited)

3:00 AM

personally I think 2 is not a big deal at all (though obviously feels very different from 1)

3:00 AM

I think once you hit 3 tulpas in a system, the division becomes really obvious and the need for planning where time is spent is important

We did something unusual, we went from an official system of 2 to an official system of 17 overnight. However, we decided I would get priority (since I was already getting more attention by default) and I now function as a co-host in my system. I think how you guys want to divide up time is up to you. For us, doing something formal never worked, even now that we're a system of 11. Our rule now is opt-in whenever. Our more extroverted headmates tend to get a lot of time more easily since they like talking to people on Discord. However, we try to give more time to whoever we suspect needs it, particularly our more introverted headmates.

We’re a system of 33 and we have 30 regular fronters who all have a day of the month scheduled for them to front, I front on the forth day of each month for example, and I hang out with the people I’m close to in my system. Everyone gets a turn

we should get a proper schedule done up

That's what Ranger and Gray used to say :P

10:50 AM

But we're okay with the relaxed system. Technically though, we're not getting the most out of it because our hosts need to do more healing work

Makes sense, our system all wants to front so the schedule was made to prevent as much conflict as possible (there was a lot of conflict when the schedule was established and the makers of the schedule (Izuru and Lucifer) didn’t want to cause anymore problems)

10:52 AM

The 31st used to be a spare day until the 3 people who left the system showed back up and now they rotate who fronts which 31st

a schedule's gonna be fine for just four of us

Our system being relaxed works because in the past there was always someone who needed more time at any given moment. It was typical to have in-system issues and people who needed more attention :( More recently the time needed was because of integration instead of something sad but it still happens from time to time

That’s understandable

We like the idea of not being limited to a few days, but we also don't want to be ignored for months

Having some stability would be nice though. I think we need to be more creative with how to do that

you can also be flexible on how flexible the system is!

11:12 AM

if you feel you need more structure you can be more stiff with the schedule, if you feel more free you can be flexible with who’s fronting

11:12 AM

it doesn’t need to be a set rule

11:13 AM

i think it’s quite important even for people that prefer scheduled and structured organisation to notice when there is a need to loosen jt up a bit

11:14 AM

if a tulpa feels they would want to express something but cannot due it because of schedule, it’s equal to repression, and long term that can be not beneficial at all

11:15 AM

of course different people have different needs so there might be people that would function whole life on a stuff schedule, but i think it’s wise to keep an eye on how it feels inside

11:15 AM

and adapt to the needs at the moment

We have considered making schedule changes if our system shrinks

We'll definitely look into it given what Ian said, but it may not pan out

ian has same colors as my hair! Haha

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Sometimes people who aren’t scheduled front that day for a few minutes if they really need to take front to convey a message or something else, we’ve been doing our schedule for three years and thankfully it’s worked out for us so far, but it’s not so rigid to disallow switching days and a little bit of someone else fronting on someone else’s day

11:22 AM

Finding the thing that works is pretty important and feels pretty good when you’ve achieved it

Our focus on headmates schedule and our switching schedule are disconnected, which is really nice. Our switching is actually pretty strict to the point we typically plan it out a few days in advance while possession is sloppy and allows for anyone to type online whenever

11:25 AM

For instance, Gray is switched-in right now but I'm hogging most of the morning via possession so far (edited)

Pretty much anyone can speak online in our group, the person fronting just proxies for them and sometimes the people being proxied accidentally take front for a bit

and irl?

Oh, only the fronter speaks irl for us

11:30 AM

Nobody else is really keen on contributing when dealing with physical people

11:30 AM

Whoever’s day it is is stuck dealing with that situation

In person we only specify me vs Gray to Flame, Gray's brother. I speak in a different sounding voice. Yes it's cringe but it's way easier than a bracelet or whatever. Otherwise whoever is switched in speaks using the body's voice.

ranger how long does switching process take for you and how does it compare with how it was in the past? If i temember correctly you were using symbolism for jt

For VCs it's actually the same but for a different reason- we have a rule that only the switchd-in headmate can speak using the body's voice. Otherwise, it would be confusing to figure out who's who

Our voices are different but when we’re nervous it automatically becomes closer to the body’s voice, a very annoying thing. Nobody really notices the difference so we don’t get called out for it

switching is very easy in vrchat, you just swap avatars!

11:33 AM

and everyone knows

11:33 AM

who they are talking to